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The Pediatric Forum
August 1999

Socrates or Aunt Minnie?—Reply

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Copyright 1999 American Medical Association. All Rights Reserved. Applicable FARS/DFARS Restrictions Apply to Government Use.1999

Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 1999;153(8):893. doi:

In reply

Dr Davé's metaphor implies that Aunt Minnie (rapid diagnosis and precepting) requires experience, and we agree. We agree also that Socratic dialogue is an important part of medical training. We emphasize that our commentary was directed to the needs of patients and trainees in a busy pediatric office or outpatient clinic.

Training programs provide ample opportunity for Socratic dialogue: journal club, morning report, "curbside consults," and so on. But the leisurely, free-wheeling and stimulating discussions in these venues are usually not appropriate in the clinic. The most obvious problem is time. Neither patients nor other trainees like to be kept waiting during lengthy preceptor-trainee dialogues. This is especially true when some time must be allocated to teaching examination techniques and validating the findings.

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