It is about time that we get some scientific basis in surgical education. The article published in the June 1998 issue of the ARCHIVES reports on the evaluation of the effectiveness of teaching basic laparoscopic skills and suturing to trained surgeons and residents.1 Three types of drills were measured, as well as intracorporeal knot tying and suturing. The results showed that trained surgeons are not better than their residents in the performance of dexterity drills and suturing exercises. There was also a significant correlation between the time for completion of suturing exercises and dexterity drills like the rope pass test and the triangle transfer test.